“I have, you know, over 20 years of experience, training, education in mental health, learn disabilities, and diversity like we've talked about and nursing and the science of nursing and the body.

“And through all my years of NHS work, I've also worked with a huge diversity of professionals from psychiatrists to psychologists to speech and language therapists to occupational therapists.

“So, I have access to a lot of tools and I've never discovered anything like when I worked with the breath in terms of being able to support people.

“I might be physically active. I might put good nutrition and fluid into myself and I might know a lot educationally about how to support my mind. But I had never sat with my body and my breath and seen my true self.

“And as we went on that journey, I think the way that you hold space and the skill set that you bring and the completely understated unbelievable natural but accepting space that you create is so fits with the integrity that I carry through my NHS experience and so much more.

“I can't imagine having that experience and how you show up. I don't know how you do it, you know, nine months or eight months of like showing up and holding us all in all these different states and sharing all your wisdom and from years and years of your own experiences and your own trainings was just such a privilege to have access to.

“I remember on our last day apart from the fact that we all never wanted it to end. Um saying to you at the end that the training with you gave me back my soul.

“Um it was something that I hadn't seen for a very long time and it completely changed my life and gave me yeah something that I could never have predicted and I didn't even maybe understand that I needed in that sense.

“And then since the training, I think the way that you support us as trainees and then as practitioners that have obviously qualified from your school, the availability of how you support us, the integrity of how you support us, the wisdom that you give us and but also the beautiful way that you empower us as individuals is something that has enabled me.

“I described to you recently I think in the advanced training I had found my soul through the the initial training and then through the advanced training.

“I feel like this year I found my skin and I put my skin on. So now I have my soul and I'm wearing my own skin. So that kind of is the I guess the way of how I've grown and it's shaped everything about how I see the world.

“It's shaped everything about the relationships that I have and predominantly how I show up in those environments and different kind of relationships. And it's It's just changed everything. And I never thought I could be so passionate about something as I've become about breath work and embodiment really.

“And the community that I've built with all of the people that I trained with and then the wider community that we've now been able to have the opportunity to meet all around the world.

“Yeah, it's it's a it's a real gift that it's been really Yeah, it's very special.”